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why do people say vegeta cheated to become ss4?
Topic Started: Apr 30 2011, 03:07 AM (5,762 Views)
Kakarot1
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Vegeta skipped super saiyan 3, therefore in my opinion he cheated to get to super saiyan 4. Plus Bulma built the machine.
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Kakarot1
May 3 2011, 06:39 PM
Vegeta skipped super saiyan 3, therefore in my opinion he cheated to get to super saiyan 4. Plus Bulma built the machine.
where was it stated that ssj3 was needed to get to ssj4? that was a super oozaru, not a super 3 oozaru. plus, goku used a machine to pull his tail out. same thing.
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the DB manga, and the Dr. Slump manga as it applies to the crossover during the rra saga.

list of non canon sources:

everything else, regardless of origin, format, or quality.

for those that blindly follow word of god
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lunar2
May 3 2011, 06:44 PM
Kakarot1
May 3 2011, 06:39 PM
Vegeta skipped super saiyan 3, therefore in my opinion he cheated to get to super saiyan 4. Plus Bulma built the machine.
where was it stated that ssj3 was needed to get to ssj4? that was a super oozaru, not a super 3 oozaru. plus, goku used a machine to pull his tail out. same thing.
It was not stated it's implied. If each form gets stronger and stronger from the one before it's seen as steps to go to. Vegeta not only jumped a critical step in power by going from SSJ2 to a SSJ4. He was aided by a machine to do so. Goku's tail growth being pulled out can be seen as drasitc measures being need done.
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It's actually just implied that a tail is needed with a Saiyan who can go SS is all that's needed to be SS4.

Elder Kaioshin doesn't even imply that SS3 is needed. Just what I said before.
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if he would have grew his tail out again and there was a full moon at the time he probably could have reached super sayain 4

all the machine did was give him moon waves

its like tanning outside or inside a tanning bed
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The fact that he used a machine is cheating. The Prince of all Saiyans using a machine to help him? What? :o_O: I know that he used the gravity machine to be more powerful, but still. I wanted to see him go the natural way. He was more than capable of doing it himself. It just felt they made Vegeta a SSJ4 so he could fuse with Goku and not because of his personal abilities.
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Well Omega Sheron was destroying the planet so he really had no choice to do it. Goku also had his tail pulled out by others so you might as well count that as cheating. But Goku and Vegeta were equal power levels so it is only right for him to go SSJ4. He needed it to destroy Omega.
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